tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post8781288852565761221..comments2023-08-24T05:24:51.011-04:00Comments on PURE Reform: Western PA school rankingsQuestionerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-48422161416652571102013-04-10T10:37:47.995-04:002013-04-10T10:37:47.995-04:00Thank you 10:26!
"But when it comes to ranki...Thank you 10:26!<br /><br />"But when it comes to ranking schools, present the unvarnished facts.<br />A school is either producing quality graduates, or it is not. Period."<br /><br />You are right and there is nothing more to say. EXCUSES just don't cut it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-18698081658561777582013-04-08T22:26:07.199-04:002013-04-08T22:26:07.199-04:00Questioner at 9:22,
I see no problems with the ra...Questioner at 9:22,<br /><br />I see no problems with the rankings list. To add modifiers - like the percentage of students receiving a free lunch - just muddies the waters.<br /><br />A school is what it is! Do you think a parent thinking about moving into Pittsburgh cares about such modifiers? Do you think a company thinking about hiring city graduates cares about such modifiers?<br /><br />No! A school is either producing quality graduates, or it is not.<br /><br />Now, economics (and poverty) play a HUGE roll, no doubt about that. So city schools have a hard row to hoe, no doubt about that.<br /><br />But when it comes to ranking schools, present the unvarnished facts.<br /><br />A school is either producing quality graduates, or it is not. Period.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-81005786667460769942013-04-06T21:22:14.797-04:002013-04-06T21:22:14.797-04:00The Business Journal itself recognizes the problem...The Business Journal itself recognizes the problems with its rankings list, stating on page 46 that "It is widely acknowledged that the economic situation of a student is one of the strongest predictors of how well a student will perform economically..." Not how well the student CAN perform, but how well the student will perform under the conditions that exist at this time. <br /><br />In response to this issue the Journal also includes an "Overachiever rank," which takes into account the percentage of students receiving a free or reduced price lunch. Under this measure Pittsburgh moved from 29 last year to 20 this year. However, the methodology is strange and has no logical basis- the Journal adds the regular rank to the free and reduced lunch rank, like adding apples and oranges. Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-40785831268570576642013-04-06T11:09:19.776-04:002013-04-06T11:09:19.776-04:00Th super was roosevelt, the deputy super was lane,...Th super was roosevelt, the deputy super was lane, the head of the institute for urban Ed housed at the school was Lopez, the principal was Narcisse; one white, three AA but all heavily influenced by Broad. Those at U Prep and in general in Western PA have not yet figured out how to best educate impoverished students in their schools.Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-72300294629342385152013-04-06T11:01:24.944-04:002013-04-06T11:01:24.944-04:00"They just didnt know how to do it."
Th..."They just didnt know how to do it."<br /><br />This line from the previous post captures it. Who were they? What race? What background? What commitment? What experience? What record of success?<br /><br />Yet, there are those with the above qualities who have figured it out for their students (not someone else's) and are doing it, continue to do it because of the above qualities! Home grown, committed individuals with the right qualities!<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-87816771274827836862013-04-06T10:56:09.827-04:002013-04-06T10:56:09.827-04:00There was a very real and sincere attempt to provi...There was a very real and sincere attempt to provide U Prep students with everything that was needed for them to "soar"; sincerely dedicated teachers, principals, even a superintendent who more than anything wanted to show Broad how he could create a flagship school. They just didnt know how to do it. They thought they had it figured out, but they did not.<br />Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-66723260488801867842013-04-06T10:54:44.279-04:002013-04-06T10:54:44.279-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-5104561229669678522013-04-06T10:25:10.785-04:002013-04-06T10:25:10.785-04:00A ranking of schools by family income would probab...A ranking of schools by family income would probably yield very similar results. If so, does this list tell us anything other than the fact that schools in Western Pennsylvania have not yet figured out how to most effectively teach students living in poverty?Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-50916647947497258452013-04-06T09:26:05.147-04:002013-04-06T09:26:05.147-04:00The initial post by Anonymous clearly states that ...The initial post by Anonymous clearly states that grades 3,4and 5 will follow. The "comment" is obviously a continuation of the initial post.Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-1896992589038537522013-04-06T09:15:22.962-04:002013-04-06T09:15:22.962-04:00The Grades 3, 4, and 5 DATA is listed here as a co...The Grades 3, 4, and 5 DATA is listed here as a comment/post by Questioner. Why?<br /><br />It is a continuation of the initial post. It was NOT submitted by Questioner!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49258804305307213.post-45104025664800748342013-04-06T08:46:34.766-04:002013-04-06T08:46:34.766-04:00April 5, 2013, The Business Times RANKS all Wester...April 5, 2013, The Business Times RANKS all Western Pennsylvania Schools based on 3-year averages of Math, Reading, Writing and Science "proficient/advanced" PSSA scores at each Grade Level per District.<br /><br />Following the previous post for Grades 11, 8, 7, and 6 HERE are the Grades 5, 4, and 3 RANKINGS in Western PA:<br /><br /><br />Western PA 5th Grade (273 Schools)<br /><br />The highest ranked PPS schools are Dilworth at 64th place, Colfax at 74th place, and Liberty at 91st.<br /><br />Among the bottom 30 schools are 15 PPS: Lincoln-244th, Weil-245th, Sunnyside-246th, Manchester-250th Wooslair-251st. Grandview-256th, Arsenal-261st, Stevens-262nd , Miller-263rd, Arlington-265th, Schaeffer-266th, King-268th, Northview-269th, Murray-270th, and Faison-271st.<br /><br />Western PA 4th Grade (300 Schools)<br />There are NO PPS 4th Grades in the top 100 schools! The highest ranked PPS school is Colfax at 126th.<br /><br />Among the bottom 30 schools are 18 PPS schools: Spring Hill - 272nd, Morrow–273rd, Sunnyside-276th, Fort Pitt-277th, Stevens-278th, Arsenal-282nd, Weil-284th, Grandview-285th, Lincoln-286th, Miller- 287th, Manchester-288th, Arlington- 291st, Schaeffer-293rd, Murray-295th, Faison-296th, Woolslair-297th, King -298th and Northview–299th.<br /><br />Western PA 3rd Grade (314 Schools)<br /><br />There is only ONE PPS school among the top 100 schools: Colfax at 92nd place.<br /><br />Among the bottom 30 schools are 22 PPS schools: Montessori-269th, Carmalt–270th, Roosevelt–274th. Spring Hill–277th, Schaeffer-279th, Concord-280th, Sunnyside–281st, Mifflin–283rd, Westwood–284th, Miller-289th, Manchester-293rd, Arlington-299th, Grandview-300th, Arsenal-302nd, Fort Pitt-303rd, Weil–305th, Stevens-306th, Murray-308th, Northview-309th, Lincoln-310th, Woolslair-311th, Faison-312th, and King-313th.<br /><br />These scores were reportedly taken from the PDE website and averaged over three years in four subjects to produce one "proficient/advanced" percentage for each grade level in a District. The Districts were then RANKED across Western PA schools only.<br /><br />Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04349071186140766778noreply@blogger.com