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Word is that Chris Berdnik was represented by Westinghouse Alum President Reggie Bridges and gave strong testimony on behalf of Fadzen, but the media wasn't there. It may be a good time for PPS to settle.
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By the by, don't these two statements contradict each other?
The website went through major changes within the last 3 years and still not all is perfect. Our buildings should have support to keep the school level sites up-to-date. Some schools do a smashing good job staying current and others not so much. Start small, keep the staff list current, or start smaller, once someone has been retired for 2 years he should not be on the staff list.
How is it that the media is not interested in the Fadzen story? Odd. At the very least he should be absolved of the ambulance sin.
What did Mr. Berdnick testify too? And is the Alumni President Reggie Bridges a lawyer or did Mr Berdnick go to Westinghouse? Also was his testimony about the crimes and cover ups at Westinghouse?
If you give testimony at a hearing or are deposed prior to a hearing it is always advisable to have counsel. In the case of Mr. Berdnik it would be a necessity since there were likely terms in his separation agreement that make answering some questions tricky.
Many parents that have been reading the posts here-Fazden-no matter what the judge states will appeal-appeal-appeal-till he gets what he wants---and the Board knows this from what we been reading here at Pure Reform and going through the motions because of the appeal, appeal, appeal process.
Since, his infractions do not involve PPS students-there is a line drawn-he went beyond his authority and crossed the line-if he done something heroic and saved a person life, helped out in a serious car accident or forewarned the police by calling 911 regarding incidents-this would not be happening. He would be receiving a Medal of Honor from the Mayor for his courage.
He crossed the line-at times. If, this was a teacher that crossed the lines or a PPPs administrator they would have been dismissed as we know regarding different type of infractions that are not part of this case.
It is a shame for all involved. At this juncture- as parents from the South Hills-some of us feel this is unnecessary-many believe he went into another territory while being a Cop of taking his authority beyond his title-he should have known better.
If the LIVE BOARD MEETINGS function from the district website no longer works why not just omit the option from the menus? I am sure it has not been disabled to allow for editing, but most likely is a cost saving measure.
8:45 I really don't think you know what is going on. Iam a teacher in the pps school dist.i have witness fazden doing great things. He has a big heart.for you to speculate what happen in this on going saga and to think this is all about the paramedic's and for him crossing the line as a police officer you are completely wrong.for 1 you say you are in the southills(soft hills) 2 A police officer is on duty 24 hours a day ,no matter what force , school,city swat whatever the case . The reason this all happened its board politics.They tried to get rid of him years ago .And for you to believe every thing you read,ask first before you talk and visit the east end and talk to people about fazden. You will think diffrenent.So for you to comment about this being from the south hills.visit bad nieborhoods and see what they say.
Way to go 7:23 people do not know what this man has done for our school's in bad area's .He show's up any where there is a school in the city and talk,s to kids from kindergarten to high school kids and it's always postive.he plays Santa at christmass for kids who do not have much.That is more than what I can say for who is in charge now .You never see the person running safety anywhere.so we might have lost a postive roll model for our youth and you will never have a man like fazden that actually cared ever again.by the way who is in charge and how come we never see or here from that person is it another gost employe
As a parent,a taxpaying citizen , all city neighborhoods have crimes in them-not just the east. As for the ANON you are refuting-I suddenly agree with that person more as you shed more light on Fadzen’s previous infractions and history with legal appeals. This is his second or third time embroiled in a potential lawsuit?
Three strikes one is out at the plate in many books.
After reading news reports and incidences-he was way out of line as a Chief of PPS. South Hills might be angry because of one Fazsen incident was in Greentree.
So, I asked around, many people seemed to be pleased with the current PPS Chief.
How far can a PPS Police Chief go in his attitude towards his job responsibilities and the scope of what his responsibilities that are entailed as daily job functions?
Too bad this not a jury trial- Fazden wants all evidence thrown out because of lack of appropriate documentation, just like an attorney-tries to contaminate the evidence, brings back Berdnick as a witness-let see can he get principals and Board members, students to appear on his behalf?
It would show when he was following his job functions.
But, what we are seeing here is a person that mispells profusely from the East End maybe due to a spell checker issue on the computer or playing the game that east area neighborhoods as so bad they cannot be equal?
Did an Fadzen infractions happen in the East End areas? Heck no, he only drives around there when trouble in schools. Camn you imagine if one of the infractions like he pulled on citizens was in homewood or the hill-he woukd drive right by and look the other way-he wouls have meet a lot of citizen revolt on him. And maybe the Police Stations would have let him know thanks but no thanks for your his help.
By the way how and why did the Board hire Fazden?
What is his previous resume vitae-that made the Board want him in their ranks?
Anon 8:56 your spell check must be off to check your bottom paragraph .And yes i am from the east end .the person in charge is not running the ship ,the commander is doing it.another gost employee who is next to go and being played like a puppet..what crimes do you have in the soft hills ,car breaki inns lol
Yes, Fadzen talks at the schools, Several years ago career day at Banksville.
As a parent my son was in that elementary at the time. Grandfathers, parents, community people came for areer Day.
Fadzen arrived talked with the police dog as a visitor and a nice female blonde officer in the classroom.
My son enjoyed all the guests.
But the children happened to hear a loud comment made to the covering teacher of his class for that period.
Fadzen blatalnatly stated to the teacher’s face in a room of 100 degree temperature that all students overheard-“I did not think you were an older teacher. I thought you would be much younger-most of the female teachers are of a younger age in PPS. Fadzen’s direct quote.
Also, the nest guest heard the comment and stated to the teacher quietly if he thinks you look old-he needs glasses because I bet we are the same age.
Many parents were out raged-but hands were tied because a Board member’s daughter and son-in-law work in that building. The daughter got the guest list together.
The principal did comment to superiors-and we were reassured, that this is not an isolated incident and they will monitor this situation. The teacher is a dang well fit and good looking lady- a class act.
As one girl student at that time called him a sexist and one grandfather said-I never realized she actually understood the true meaning of a person being sexist. He later said that was the true meaning of career day for the girls. You can survive in a man’s small minded world.
As for the teacher-let’s say her husband is a City Police Cop-and has not meant Fazden yet.
If they hire some one from out side the dist to become chief will they cut a commenter.What do they do all day.They should to save a teacher,s job.they are a waste of money.even in the summer why do police and commanders work there is no school except summer school.june July .have them work like security 10 months.commanders hide all day,do thier landruy and wash thier personal cars on board time so give them the month off aug off with no pay.does any one agree
Anonymous 9:13 PM Why do all the Fadzen people have so much hate in their words?
Ghost, commander puppet, etc. Bitter words for a man that needs to move on?
Can you guys have this man’s personality traits of bitterness?
Go to the City of Pittsburgh Police website one and all city residents.
Read daily the Police Blotter-each Zone puts up daily police reports of all crimes in each zone. It is 366 days a year. For Example, Tuesday March 13, 2012 would be up –they stay up seven days.
I work in a neighborhood Leadership Council. No city Zone is crime free-and South Hills has Zone 3 a large area to cover-the Southern region.
We as citizens and taxpayers and parents have an invested interests in all the doings in PPS. And being part of the Civic Group-we need to just look at the facts.
If this trial continues through appeals-sadly it will make more damage for our children with the los of more taxpayer dollars for this man.
Now just wait one dag-nab darn minute folks, we have plenty of crime in South Hills, you can bet your last dime on it. Our crimes are both large scale and small scale. How awful for anyone to paint the southern neighborhoods as idyllic!!! Thanks 9:51 for setting the record straight. And, our kids still walk around showing their underware, too!! Can somebody let them know this is passe? And 11:05, how can you be sure it was Fadzen making the decision to pull your school cop? Was he the only one on the letter or was somebody cc: on it? Does not sound like what I would expect him to do.
I am a female teacher who lives and teaches in the so-called 'Softer Hills.'
I see both sides of the coin. I personally had worked in afterschool programs with Fadzen, the self proclaimed rooster. He may be obnoxious, but he has a heart of gold.
I'm sorry to previous posters about his sexist comments but there may be some truth it.
As an aging female teacher, I find that I am treated differently by staff and administrators than my younger female colleagues. This does translate into the classroom because the students do pick up on attitudes.
I am sure that my aging male teacher friends may be experiencing the same now.
All this is beside the point.
Fadzen was in a position to be savvy to everything. The open hearing is a platform to shed light where it normally doesn't go.
I, for one, do not like being in the dark. I rather hear the good, the bad, and the ugly so that the problems may be workd out.
This administration is not trustworthly and is virulent.
There is a real problem with older, experienced employees being undervalued. A good mix is necessary. All ages bring something. There are advantages teachers in their late 20's/ early 30's but they also tend to need more maternity leave and time for family commitments, and they do not have the perspective that comes with having raised children to adulthood.
Anon 8:27 I've have been with the dist for 20 years and not once have I've seen a police officer posted at one school.So where di you get your information.security was always the front line and the police always did the paper work.I've seen the police walk away from a fight because they said security got it under control.No fazden never moved police out of a school because they were never assigned to just one school because if you have a riot like at the dice all police must respond .remenber security make a lot less then the police but do a lot more work.I thank my security at my school every day for keeping me and my students safe.
Does any one know who is in charge of school safety I've heard Pete carmada wants to get rid of the commanders and who ever they bring in to replace fazden will have no one under him .Can some please tell me what a commander doe's beside's signs reports all day.If the board wants to save money get rid of them they are useless.It doesn't take all day to sign papers so what do they do for the 7 hours that are left on thier shift.
Perhaps discussion of how distrcit safety and security operate should take place at either a PSCC meeting or at a district meeting of the EFA parent committee. For as many years as I had kids in school there was always a fear that the department would be downsized. With budget worries and teaching positions to be cut it seems a possibility that there will be a reducation in school police and security.
The lesson continually driven home as you read the posts to this active blog seems to be that there will always be two "camps" for most issues. It is obvious on this Fadzen topic, too.
Aparent said.there is no way they can or should cut police or security.Have any of you parents steped or work in a school where if it wasn't for security or police it would be nuts.Teachers are getting hurt breaking up fights in those buildings that don't have security.Its getting worse every where.Dr.lane and the dist.are promoting safe learning and safe schools.You cut security or police then you will see crazy schools and a lot of law suits
Do I understand you to mean, the upper admin is being kept in the dark about the testiony? Perhaps if we get audio and play the recording backwards we can get the meaning of it all.
Fazden has 4 vote's maybe 5 .I know this because I work there and I here people talking.If the board should lose this case and he does not get his job back fazden lawyers are ready to sue.The money they will have to pay is no even close to what they gave Berdnic . It will cost 2 times more and people will lose thier jobs.I suggest give him his job back,with back pay and let's move on.Dr.lane said they can't afford any more law suits,then stop playing with people,s lives . I hear you can sue the board for any reason and they will settle.
I have 15 years in and they want to cut me for a person that has 2 years and fresh out of collage. Fazden should sue ,if he win,s or not just to say this is what you get for trying to screw with me. No 1 else stood up to the powers to be he did.So all you people who blog here and are about to loose your job,s ( and you know who you are ) do something about it and stop complaining.
Fazden does not have 3 votes. Sorry. You may be hearing what the people are saying at work, but those are not the people voting. He has 1 sure vote and 1 almost sure vote thats it.
The votes will go down like this, 2for Fazden, 2 abstain, and 5 against.
How did you get those number,s . The political machine will always be the last vote and don't be suprised to see fazden by June . 5 votes for 2 against and 2 abstain.
I know the Board members vote, but the Superintendent and Co. are running the show. They pull the strings and their puppets vote according to their wishes. Fadzen is a gonner. I hope that when he gets the final decision, he sues them and takes them to the bank.
Wow, is anybody else having a lot of fun with the fantasy outcome game? Chief Fadzen has been on leave without pay for quite a while now and that is the most upsetting factor of the whole situation. Having to give any back pay if he is found worthy of reinstatemnent will be a black mark against the district.
The other camp must be worried that is he is reinstated he will have gained more power than anyone in his position should have.
Regardless of the outcome, he won't be back. If he "wins," Lane and Co. won't want him back anyway. And if he "wins," why would he want to come back and work with those backstabbers? If he is smart, he will take a nice buyout and get a nice stress free consulting job elsewhere. A win-win situation for him. If he "loses," sue and get a settlement to go quietly into the night. Again, a win-win situation for him.
Anon 5:10pm. Why wouldn't he want to come back the man has dignity .If I were him I would come back and throw it in there face . There is no one running safety and if there is why don't we see or here from that person like we did with fazden.It's all a joke.Wouldnt you want to leave with your head held high if you had all those years with the board.
I predict Fadzen will be found in the right and as soon as it is anmounced that he can be reinstated he will say "no thanks" and exit with a smile on his face.
Well let me start by saying that Fadzen is missed by the people of school safety. Why? You ask. It is simple he would fight for your job and keep on fighting for them. I have some questions if anyone can answer them. 1. Where was the person that is in charge when the shooting happened a block away from the Science and technology school. If he was around he would have been there. Helping with anything he could have done for the kids at that school. 2. I go around the district and I never see the commanders (?) anywhere but the Admin Building and the old South Vo-Tech Annex. So what do they do all day? 3. You need to keep the security and the police officers and keep the chief and maybe one of the commanders. I can go on for a while about this district but I will hold back awhile and see what other people say about this.
Anon 5:41 You are absolutely rite .Does any one know who is in charge and yes fazden would have been at sci tec that day for sure.safety needs security and police but not commanders .They hide all day or there at the board doing nothing.They need to bring fazden back and get rid of the coommanders.I to travel through out the distric and the chief is missed.So who do I contact ,or send pitchers to about the commander sleeping down south .
Trying to get a civics lesson or at least wondering how slow the wheels might turn. If there has not been an announcement on where the proceedings stand or whether or not the hearing officer is preparing his opinion, does it mean there is more testimony to be given?
No it's over .Waiting to here the decision from the hearing judge.I hope he comes back and works for another year and says f.u iam retiring and before he goes he must clean up the safety department starting with the commanders who do nothing but hide all day.It makes me sick.What waste of money.
Our schools need the leadership of Fadzen. Since he has been gone things are going on in our school that never would have been permitted. Our principal reports nothing, so school police never drops in to visit. The Chief used to just stop by to visit and had a good relationship with our prior principal. His head would turn if he saw how the students are behaving. Why not, there are no consequences anymore and a teacher said they heard our principal told school police not to come if they weren't called. I just can't imagine any principal telling Fadzen not to stop in without being called. Maybe that's why we have ghost school police now. Maybe other principals are also telling them not to come into the schools. Bring him back and let's get the schools back in control.
I agree with anon 4:44 .he needs to come back and clean it up .the police are always in my building with a commander just hanging out and doing nothing. He needs to give police assiginments and get rid of commanders.what do they do in the summer when there is no school.Talk about a waste of money.
I am surprised they won't take advantage of the spring break week to release the judgement to the media. Kind of when people won't expect it. Or maybe it will come out on Saturday when fewer people read the papers.
When is the transcipts going to be online from the hearing? Also I have been will PPS for 30 years and it looks like the carpets are coming back into the schools. Report no crimes and or bad behavior of the students and they think everyone will think all is alright inside PPS. Wrong maybe the state needs to come in and clean the whole PPS.
If anyone actually has evidence of corruption in any of the state's school districts, there is an anonymous tip line available. Otherwise there does not seem to be any reason to mention indictments.
They want the public to belieave evert thing is ok but it's not.There are fights,drugs and bullying every day in the pps.( o and weapons ) So when you run out of suspension on a special Ed kid what do you do.( sweep it under the rug )
What is the number to call and report it to the state? I wouldn't and CAN'T tell it to the PPS. Because if I do. I would be fired. Jodi and company don't like people telling the truth around here.
I work at 11th and carson and i see a commander comes by aaound 8am every day and leaves at 330pm. what hours do they work??? I read these posts and think you people are right they should get rid of them. They work less than 8 hours a day. How can they do that and not get in trouble?
First to address the commander position. Commanders sign police reports, and make sure security aides and police officers are doing what they should. They also are there if a(criminal)legal issue needs to be addressed to a principal or officer. It is also a salaried position, they are not paid for the time they put in. An example would be the extra circular events that they are at with out overtime pay.
So what do they do for the 7 hours left on they're shift and no you do not see them after school is out.so who are you trying to fool.anon3:39.they are gone home before most schools are out.Who is running safety( NO ONE ) .Dr lane needs to take a good hard look at the commenders and see why they still have a gost employes position in pps .Save teachers jobs and get rid of the commanders .
Sounds like we have a commander here. Telling us all what they do.
Mac said They also are there if a(criminal)legal issue needs to be addressed to a principal or officer. If they are pushing everthing under the rugs? So is the commanders telling Lane and Co how to do it??
I Agee they are a wast of money.Get rid of the commanders .They do not do more then expected .They are home before 3:00 pm and why can't the person in charge (so call acting chief) sigh the reports what does that person do all day(NOTHING)
Lane and Co will not look into these people because. She hired the acting puppet and the commander. SO THESE PEOPLE ARE PART OF LANE AND CO. But they better understand that if it falls apart Lane and Co will have two good fall guys.
Get rid of the commanders . Who are they and what do they do..Heck I don't even know or have seen the person running safety.lane and co.puppets should be the next to go.
Anon 5:15 I agree save the money on commanders and get rid of them especially the one they call the acting chief.What a waste.When fazden comes back they have to .the board can't afford his salary and they're salaries to . One commander and chief fazden would be enough.the so called acting chief is sweeping to many bad things under the rug and it is going to catch up with him/her .So when the press gets a hold of all the bad things they are doing over in the safety department guess who is going to get fired .The so called acting chief.
I agree with anon 6:57 .Chief fazden will be back and the commanders will be gone to save money.He will do the jobs of both of them like he use to before he left.I travel thorough out the district and people are still talking about how bad we need him back.So to you to commanders and I hope you reed this ,your days are numbered .
No, the hearing officer will find in favor of the school district. The hearing officer was selected and paid by the district. His work in this capacity for other districts would dry up if he finds for Fadzen.
Likewise, the district's solicitor is a named counsel on PPS' D&O insurance policy. With an EEOC claim in play, there's a substantial economic incentive for the Law Offices of Ira Weiss to keep this fight going.
Hey this blog works. The school police parked cars at the south building. Now most of them are gone. I read a post about a commander(?) leaving early. I have not seen that. Today I saw two just standing the parking lot talking. What are they doing there? Where have all of the cars gone?
Win or lose, it's time for the school district to make public the amount of money spent prosecuting the Fadzen case since the ambulance incident in July 2011.
What were the legal fees and costs paid to the firms that employ Weiss, Vernallis, Love and Beard?
How much did it cost to transcribe the hearing and produce official copies of the transcript?
Any word on fazden yet,He needs to come back and get his safety department under controll.They are being run by the upstairs people who controll all pps employes and the acting chief is fowling theyer lead.and will not stand up to none of them like fazden would.The acting chief will most likely lose it's job wants the media finds out what's going on and it's gonna happen the day after I retire from the district wich is soon.So get ready for a big shake up in the pps starting with the the people upstairs
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH FADZEN?? WHERE IS THE REPORT? IS THE REPORT IS GOOD FOR FADZEN AND BAD FOR LANE AND CO?? WHEN IS THE REPORT BEING SENT TO THE PUBLIC? SINCE ALL OF THAT MONEY THEY SPENT ON IT?
Fadzen won his case .So now it's time to clean out the safety dept starting with the acting chief and her side kick commander who do nothing all day long what a waste of tax payers money.
The legal eagle team here - led by Solicitor Ira Weiss - really owes the Board and public an explanation of why the procedings here are taking longer to unfold than the Sandusky trial.
Fadzen was suspended in September for an incident in July. It is now almost one year later.
While there are many possible explanations, at the end of the day follow the money trail. Maximization of legal fees is not a new concept for a law firm that fought real hard to get a taste of Veon's BIG money.
As I read the articles on the disaster that is Penn State, the Sandusky mess, I can't help but wonder that they would have gotten away with it if it were not for the investigating powers of the State Attorney General and its Grand Jury. I think the command structure at Penn State will soon find out that hiding evidence, destroying evidence, covering up crimes against children, and lying to the Grand Jury carries with it some penalties, somewhat on the stiff side.
Maybe a state or federal grand jury is exactly what is needed in the Pittsburgh Public Schools. It could look at sweetheart deals to Fischetti's old companies, the relationship and flow of money from the law office and outside law firms and back to Weiss. Ira Money, the use of taxpayer's money, millions and millions of dollars poured into schools we knew we were going to close, to name a few.
Lane, Fischetti, Reed and Spolar lie everyday to Board Members, Media, parents, children, etc.
Lie to a grand jury, hide email and other evidence, you will go to jail, end of story.
Anon 10:40 I really don't think you are a security officer,I think you are a school police officer trying to hide behind a security officer so the 2 pieces a s--t will not figure you out.You need to man up .Most people in the safety dept can't stand the 2 people in charge ,police and security ,so for you trying to cover up how you feel behind someone else is a cowardly way and I would never would won't to work beside you in any capacity and by the way I know who you are and if you were doing your job you wouldn't have time for this petty crap.
I do have time to go on here because iam retired and I was in public safety .The so called acting chief and her b...h side kick will not stand up to the people up stairs.They are yes men and do not care about they're own people because they do not want to loose they're jobs like fadzen.so for you to acting like you are security is a joke ,you sit with these people every day at the admin bld .lol
Well I do agree about the Commanders and that is why our department is a joke. I only work 8 hours so I do have time to go o here and this is America freedom of speech.
School police don't work 8 hrs and especially in the summer they are at home hiding.Ive driving past a house and I've seen a k-9 police car sitting in front of a residents in the middle of the work day and a commanders car in front of a residents too so do not tell me you school police work 8 hrs a day when school is out for the summer .You are lucky to work 4 hrs a day if that.
School Police is a joke and are nit needed! They are a waste of tax payers money, the Security Officers do all the work and the Officers think they are better. The Security Officers just laugh at them behind their backs because the Security is the heart of the school usually. Security do protection,counsel the kids,nurse when the nurse is off and sooooo much more! Why are two commanders needed? We pray that their is a new chief very soon or Fadzen comes back! The Commanders running the department are a joke and the officers go home on board time and go to the bank and come in late and so on...
Anon 6:48 you are absolutely correct and I agree .I work in a school and I talk to security every day and these men and some women do a great job ,not with just students but with teachers,parents and admistration .they defuse a lot of problems while the school police watch or walk away .They are a waste of money and the commanders are a joke.I travel to the admistration bld and see a lot of scchool police overe there doing nothing.If fadzen was there these people would not be hanging out and wasting tax payers money and that's the reason why the people up stairs don't like school safety.We need to do something to get fadzen back to save the safety dept from being dismantled.
THANK YOU FOR STATING THAT SECURITY defuse a lot of problems while the school police watch or walk away. They are a waste of money and the commanders are a joke.I travel to the admistration bld and see a lot of scchool police overe there doing nothing WHO EVER WROTE THIS THANK YOU!
Where is the chief,does any one know or heard any thing.His safety dept,is fallen apart.The two people in charge are destroying what's left of it.bad PR and so many people are complaing ,teachers ,staff and administration about the commanders.they should be evaluated by they're own people and lets see how long they last.
HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOUR DEPARTMENT IS PROFESSIONAL? 1. POLITE 2. RETURN CALLS 3. NO FAVORITES 4. GO BY SENIORITY 5. FOLLOWS PROTOCOL IF THEY EVEN KNOW IT. 6. RETURN EMAILS 7. GIVES JOB LOCATIONS BY SENIORITY BY REQUEST. 8. FAIR WITH OVER TIME 9. RESPECT 10. ALWAYS BACK YOUR STAFF AND THEY WILL BACK YOU! COMMON SENSE!!!!
Anon 9:32 what did the commanders do to you that you are so angry. We all do not like what they are doing to the dept of safety but you are taking it personally .the chief needs to come back and the board needs to get rid of them too .the chief ran this dept for years with out them too.So you you need to call or write a letter to Pete c they're boss and let him investagate what they are doing and he will problay fire them if he knows the truth.
NO ONE THAT POST ANYTHING ON HERE POST ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEM BECAUSE NOVICKI AND BROWN WOULD PUNISH AND HARASS YOU. WE USE OTHER PEOPLES SITUATIONS.
Anon 4:42 you must be a police officer because security only work 10 months and make enough money to feed they're kids .If you don't like your job then quit it's that simple the commanders are doing what the people up stairs are letting them do so get use to it or find another job..who ever this is needs to stop badgering the commanders because they will take it out on all police and security,no over time to start with and moveing people around .If you got a problem then let them know why ruing it for the ones that like they're job.
Sounds like alot of safety people are on this but they won't put their names. They give themselfs away by giving to much information. I work for pps and yes it is messed up. Not just one depatment the WHOLE PPS. The state needs to come in and look at the whole picture.
To anon 4:42, The Security do ALL THE WORK and the Police make the money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! No, you are wrong the Security do worry about feeding their families. If the Commanders harass me I am writing Pete a letter ASAP! I m tired of this! The PPS are a mess because the staff are unhappy!
*** WE DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH INFO... I USE OTHERS SITUATIONS! WE ALL TALK!
Anon 9:39 security make enough money in ten months to feed they're kids .so for you to blog and complain to Pete c is a joke maybe if you didn't have to pay child support you can afford to be off for 2 months.So if you don't like your job and can't afford the summers off quit or find a second job.
Anon 9:39 go to the next public meeting an complain.we need him back ASAP,I will be they're .So lets see how Many people show up on his behalf and who are behind him and want him back.
First off if any of you think that the police shouldn't make more than security your probably uneducated, close-minded, and ignorant to how the world works. The district has this uncanny knack of paying people more that have more responsibility, and have certifications to hold the position. I know its kind of crazy sounding but they actually got that right. So okay Security is front line defense against those unrulely offspring of the crack cocaine generation. In a post Colembine world they are needed to protect our most valuable assets (the teachers). They also are often forced to be counselors, coaches, mediators, big brothers an sisters, but they come to be pretty good at it after a while and actually keep the peace in a building. What happens though when these golden "heart" security guards cant control there population or fail to properly search someone at the (fool proof safety device of the decade) magnetometer. What do they do when a weapon gets in to the building, or when the fights to much to handle, or when the all mighty teacher is assaulted, or generally when a crime is committed. You need certified sworn police to initiate legal proceedings. The Schools certified officers have been through the same certification standards as your city, state, and borough police officer. These are the same officers that constantly go through the legal scrutiny that your administration, security, and teachers do not want to and cannot do legally. These are the people held accountable for following the law while your school staff are free to violate the civil rights of the students under the cloak of school policy. Now aside from why the accredited police officers are paid more then the uncertified, often uneducated security. What security officer makes over forty thousand a year, with full benefits? What other school district in the NATION pays that much? So what its a couple dollars and some change less than the police. The bottom line is the police are paid for their certifications, increased responsibility, and legal obligations. If you don't like the amount your being paid then look for a new job and see what your worth to other districts.
As far as the Commanders go Its rather obvious that a certain know-it-all has orchestrated this blog because of his lust for sassy gossip. We know all know this is how you strike your revenge (for not getting the cmdr job). Its the only way in the post Fadzen department. But hey on the bright side they'll be looking for a new short dictator soon enough maybe you can get that job. Until then status quo is the way to go. The rest of you people are just upset that there is a boss('s) that holds you accountable for your actions and not your politics.
Who ever wrote the long one on July 11, 2012 7:22 PM is uneducated. The Security do not make $40,000 more like $32,000! The Security have hands on training where police have what 8 weeks lol,lol! The Police are wayyyyyyyyy over paid! What do they do???? How many police are educated lol!? THIS STATEMENT IS A JOKE}The bottom line is the police are paid for their certifications, increased responsibility, and legal obligations. If you don't like the amount your being paid then look for a new job and see what your worth to other districts. WITHOUT SECURITY MISTER EDUCATED KNOW IT ALL YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A JOB! SECURITY GO TO COURT AND HANDLE ALL THE SITUATIONS IN THE SCHOOLS! WHAT A JOKE!
whose Dr. Manlicher? Where does the security aide position require more than a high school diploma or equivalent? "hands on training"? See what that will do for you in a civil case when your house and pension is on the line. 32,000 for 10 months of work as a security guard, that's robbery. But I know the guard's that actually do work make more in overtime. Actually guards in the high schools are almost all making more even at minimal overtime cause of the cuts. Again I ask you to find a comparable SECURITY job that pays even close to that even with out the overtime. How does a security guard get a case in to a court room? Does the teach write refer to court on a paper for them? I'm pretty sure the police who have had 7 months of police academy training and yearly legal updates to keep a post high school certification are the ones filing the appropriate charges and bringing the security guard witness's to court. So why are you so angry at the School District police ? Is there a jealously that you yourself are not a police officer? If Fadzen is such a god sent savior why did he not wave his magic stick on your forehead and make you a police officer? Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth. No one said that that the guards don't do a good job or that they aren't worth their pay but it was said be thankful for what your getting cause you wouldn't get that anywhere else in the country. An there's really no reason for You to be so upset at the police they have no bearing on your position. It just make you sound sad, angry and jelious. Maybe this isn't for you
If you want to be taken serious leave your name! Posting all of this on this blog with no name it looks like everyone wants to say something but will not stand up and defend it. Just look at PSU if all of this illegal stuff is going on at PPS than maybe someone needs to come in and review all of the concerns and problems. Oh use your real name not McFaroffthedeepend and such.
I will write Pete with every situation that needs addressed this year! Other than that I have nothing more to say. You have no idea who I am *Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth.
Anon 11:17 you are a bitter person who should not be working around kids. if you have this much anger towards your own people what do you do to these students when they are out of controll.you should evaluate your self before you judge other people.( ps please find some other line of work this job is not for you )
They have no idea who writes these blogs because there are a few of us that write blogs. I have worked for the board over 16 years and have always been in a middle school that has requested a high school for the past 10 years - I lost faith in the department. I suggest that you just write Pete even anonymously if you have too.
A Commander diffidently wrote the following:McFaroffthedeepend said... whose Dr. Manlicher? Where does the security aide position require more than a high school diploma or equivalent? "hands on training"? See what that will do for you in a civil case when your house and pension is on the line. 32,000 for 10 months of work as a security guard, that's robbery. But I know the guard's that actually do work make more in overtime. Actually guards in the high schools are almost all making more even at minimal overtime cause of the cuts. Again I ask you to find a comparable SECURITY job that pays even close to that even with out the overtime. How does a security guard get a case in to a court room? Does the teach write refer to court on a paper for them? I'm pretty sure the police who have had 7 months of police academy training and yearly legal updates to keep a post high school certification are the ones filing the appropriate charges and bringing the security guard witness's to court. So why are you so angry at the School District police ? Is there a jealously that you yourself are not a police officer? If Fadzen is such a god sent savior why did he not wave his magic stick on your forehead and make you a police officer? Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth. No one said that that the guards don't do a good job or that they aren't worth their pay but it was said be thankful for what your getting cause you wouldn't get that anywhere else in the country. An there's really no reason for You to be so upset at the police they have no bearing on your position. It just make you sound sad, angry and jelious. Maybe this isn't for you, Commoffthedeepend...
This above shows you our leadership, well aren't we lucky.
IF THEY HARASS YOU WRITE PETE,DR. LANE,THE UNION AND HUMAN RESOURCES - THIS IS TERRIBLE!
Both commanders need to be evaluated .they are gost employees .get rid of one of them that we do not need and we all know wich one has to go.the police actually run the show they are only there to waste space .The police do a better job being in charge of after school activetys because you never see a commander there.They are home most of the work day and only show up if some one from the board is attending an after school function .So iam making copys and taking pitchers of they're cars sitting in front of theyer homes during a work days .pps police do a great job when a commander is not in the pitcher.they abuse theyer power by being a bullys.so by the end of this school year one of them will be gone.
Instead of the Commanders realizing that all these statement may be reality and not staff trying to be mean and make changes! The staff is unhappy and yes harassed and mistreated unfairly weather they like you or not. The commanders need to look at all the statements as their staff is very unhappy with them and what changes need to be made, not responding like they do! Yes, seniority should be by the para list, we just treated fairly and respected - that is all! A few of us that do leave feedback on here you should maybe listen to us. We have texts on our phones from Police Officers telling us that you all are saying that certain people are leaving these messages. Well, all of the Officers talk about you because they are unhappy! Instead of talking about us, try making positive changes. There are three of us that talk and respond to our unhappiness on here. If we are mistreated we are going right to Pete and the Union and I an one of the people being blamed for writing one thing on here, one! I will not be anonymous I will go right to the source if I am treated unfairly. We are thinking about telling Pete to read all these blogs, especially the ones that our Commanders (leaders) respond too! You are Commanders in charge AND BE CAREFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT PRETEND TO BE YOUR FRIENDS NOT US THAT WRITE WHAT WE FEEL ON HERE, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FAKE! Police and Security are very unhappy!
How is $32,000 a year robbery for a Security Officer that does all the work? We work hard and the ones that do not get rid of them! We are the ones that answer all the calls and keep the staff and kids safe! When a person irate on drugs comes into the building refusing to leave screaming and aggressive, the Security handle the entire situation alone putting our lives on the line daily! Take away taxes 0f $32,000 which is $6,000 = $26,000 COME ON NOW! We do not call the Police but 5% of the time because we are trained by experience.
Kapt Kaos said... Sounds like alot of safety people are on this but they won't put their names. They give themselfs away by giving to much information. I work for pps and yes it is messed up. Not just one depatment the WHOLE PPS. The state needs to come in and look at the whole picture.
Thanks for the response but non of us are dumb enough to leave our own situation comments on here! They call us uneducated but we are not dumb! We all talk on a chat line.
OKAY, THOSE THAT WANT A LETTER TO BE SENT TO PETE,DR.LANE AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS JUST PASTE AND COPY THIS AND THEN WE WILL MAIL IT TO ALL OF THEM!
Those of us that want this sent to you are unhappy for the following reasons and believe the following changes need to be made!
1. Their are favorites and they do not go by seniority. Only the favorites get asked to work over time and they do not go by seniority! Seniority eliminates favorites and being unfair!
Anon 6:16 why should they go by seniority when half of ithe people on the safety list do not work .they come in and do nothing all day .the commanders reward people who work and thats fair.why reward some one for doing nothing come on .If this was another dept ,the people that dont work ( and you know who you are ) would have been fired.so be happy that you still have a job because they let you do nothing and get paid for it..
lol, wow that was deep but so false the statement above lol! If you read the earlier post it states that the Security that do not do anything need to be let go! READ BEFORE COMMENTING PLEASE! No, they need to go by Seniority! Going by Seniority is 100% fair! If you are on for 12 years and someone else for only 3 gets all the over time - that is 100% fair! Someday they will be the one with Seniority! The board is a mess because look at all the teachers that to not work!? The Commanders are not in the buildings so tell me how they know if they work? lol
Anon 6:31 the admistration ,security and some students let them know who works when they are in the building or out side of school ..ya seniority is the is the way it's supposed to go but is it fair no .you got some 1 who works they're but and you got some 1 who does nothing who do you think you would reward if you were in charge.most of the safety dept are lazy and just show up for a paycheck .hec I don't know it you are 1 of the ones that work or not but if you were they would know.so I guess not because you are on here complaing .so if you want to be rewarded show up for work every day on time and WORK
Anon 5:03 if they fired every one that don't work in the safety department you would only have a hand full of people left including the commanders,there will be no in charge.
Anon 9:00 they just need to get rid of the lazy safety staff.they know who they are.If the commanders would do they're jobs and not be afraid of some of the people and put friendship aside we would have a great department .
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Word is that Chris Berdnik was represented by Westinghouse Alum President Reggie Bridges and gave strong testimony on behalf of Fadzen, but the media wasn't there. It may be a good time for PPS to settle.
Since when has accessing the administrative directory been nonpublic?! Below was cut and pasted from the link.
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By the by, don't these two statements contradict each other?
The same message comes up for a lot of things on the website and registering doesn't help- you still get that message.
School union fights for ex-convicts
New state law puts a lifetime ban on school jobs for those guilty of certain offenses
Monday, March 12, 2012
By Eleanor Chute, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12072/1216141-298-0.stm#ixzz1ovbTsjXE
The irony is that the union will fight for a school van driver convicted of manslaughter and not for a teacher fired for 'teaching.'
It gets more difficult every day to witness the absurb and moronic.
It is either that there is almost no one at PPS who is competent, OR confusion is created for a purpose that serves to keep everyone at bay.
The website went through major changes within the last 3 years and still not all is perfect. Our buildings should have support to keep the school level sites up-to-date. Some schools do a smashing good job staying current and others not so much. Start small, keep the staff list current, or start smaller, once someone has been retired for 2 years he should not be on the staff list.
How is it that the media is not interested in the Fadzen story? Odd. At the very least he should be absolved of the ambulance sin.
What did Mr. Berdnick testify too? And is the Alumni President Reggie Bridges a lawyer or did Mr Berdnick go to Westinghouse? Also was his testimony about the crimes and cover ups at Westinghouse?
Reggie Bridges is a lawyer (as well as a Westinghouse alum, obviously).
Bridges is a lawyer.
Why did Mr. Berdnik need a lawyer? Is he suing the district or was this a public hearing for him too?
If you give testimony at a hearing or are deposed prior to a hearing it is always advisable to have counsel. In the case of Mr. Berdnik it would be a necessity since there were likely terms in his separation agreement that make answering some questions tricky.
All speculation on my part obviously, just logic.
So what is the status now for the Fazden hearing process? Is it over? What will happen next?
Many parents that have been reading the posts here-Fazden-no matter what the judge states will appeal-appeal-appeal-till he gets what he wants---and the Board knows this from what we been reading here at Pure Reform and going through the motions because of the appeal, appeal, appeal process.
Since, his infractions do not involve PPS students-there is a line drawn-he went beyond his authority and crossed the line-if he done something heroic and saved a person life, helped out in a serious car accident or forewarned the police by calling 911 regarding incidents-this would not be happening. He would be receiving a Medal of Honor from the Mayor for his courage.
He crossed the line-at times. If, this was a teacher that crossed the lines or a PPPs administrator they would have been dismissed as we know regarding different type of infractions that are not part of this case.
It is a shame for all involved. At this juncture- as parents from the South Hills-some of us feel this is unnecessary-many believe he went into another territory while being a Cop of taking his authority beyond his title-he should have known better.
Off topic, kinda
If the LIVE BOARD MEETINGS function from the district website no longer works why not just omit the option from the menus? I am sure it has not been disabled to allow for editing, but most likely is a cost saving measure.
8:45 I really don't think you know what is going on. Iam a teacher in the pps school dist.i have witness fazden doing great things. He has a big heart.for you to speculate what happen in this on going saga and to think this is all about the paramedic's and for him crossing the line as a police officer you are completely wrong.for 1 you say you are in the southills(soft hills) 2 A police officer is on duty 24 hours a day ,no matter what force , school,city swat whatever the case . The reason this all happened its board politics.They tried to get rid of him years ago .And for you to believe every thing you read,ask first before you talk and visit the east end and talk to people about fazden. You will think diffrenent.So for you to comment about this being from the south hills.visit bad nieborhoods and see what they say.
Way to go 7:23 people do not know what this man has done for our school's in bad area's .He show's up any where there is a school in the city and talk,s to kids from kindergarten to high school kids and it's always postive.he plays Santa at christmass for kids who do not have much.That is more than what I can say for who is in charge now .You never see the person running safety anywhere.so we might have lost a postive roll model for our youth and you will never have a man like fazden that actually cared ever again.by the way who is in charge and how come we never see or here from that person is it another gost employe
ANON 7:23 PM
As a parent,a taxpaying citizen , all city neighborhoods have crimes in them-not just the east. As for the ANON you are refuting-I suddenly agree with that person more as you shed more light on Fadzen’s previous infractions and history with legal appeals. This is his second or third time embroiled in a potential lawsuit?
Three strikes one is out at the plate in many books.
After reading news reports and incidences-he was way out of line as a Chief of PPS. South Hills might be angry because of one Fazsen incident was in Greentree.
So, I asked around, many people seemed to be pleased with the current PPS Chief.
How far can a PPS Police Chief go in his attitude towards his job responsibilities and the scope of what his responsibilities that are entailed as daily job functions?
Too bad this not a jury trial- Fazden wants all evidence thrown out because of lack of appropriate documentation, just like an attorney-tries to contaminate the evidence, brings back Berdnick as a witness-let see can he get principals and Board members, students to appear on his behalf?
It would show when he was following his job functions.
But, what we are seeing here is a person that mispells profusely from the East End maybe due to a spell checker issue on the computer or playing the game that east area neighborhoods as so bad they cannot be equal?
Did an Fadzen infractions happen in the East End areas? Heck no, he only drives around there when trouble in schools. Camn you imagine if one of the infractions like he pulled on citizens was in homewood or the hill-he woukd drive right by and look the other way-he wouls have meet a lot of citizen revolt on him. And maybe the Police Stations would have let him know thanks but no thanks for your his help.
By the way how and why did the Board hire Fazden?
What is his previous resume vitae-that made the Board want him in their ranks?
Anon 8:56 your spell check must be off to check your bottom paragraph .And yes i am from the east end .the person in charge is not running the ship ,the commander is doing it.another gost employee who is next to go and being played like a puppet..what crimes do you have in the soft hills ,car breaki inns lol
Anon 8:46 PM
Yes, Fadzen talks at the schools, Several years ago career day at Banksville.
As a parent my son was in that elementary at the time.
Grandfathers, parents, community people came for areer Day.
Fadzen arrived talked with the police dog as a visitor and a nice female blonde officer in the classroom.
My son enjoyed all the guests.
But the children happened to hear a loud comment made to the covering teacher of his class for that period.
Fadzen blatalnatly stated to the teacher’s face in a room of 100 degree temperature that all students overheard-“I did not think you were an older teacher. I thought you would be much younger-most of the female teachers are of a younger age in PPS. Fadzen’s direct quote.
Also, the nest guest heard the comment and stated to the teacher quietly if he thinks you look old-he needs glasses because I bet we are the same age.
Many parents were out raged-but hands were tied because a Board member’s daughter and son-in-law work in that building. The daughter got the guest list together.
The principal did comment to superiors-and we were reassured, that this is not an isolated incident and they will monitor this situation. The teacher is a dang well fit and good looking lady- a class act.
As one girl student at that time called him a sexist and one grandfather said-I never realized she actually understood the true meaning of a person being sexist. He later said that was the true meaning of career day for the girls. You can survive in a man’s small minded world.
As for the teacher-let’s say her husband is a City Police Cop-and has not meant Fazden yet.
If they hire some one from out side the dist to become chief will they cut a commenter.What do they do all day.They should to save a teacher,s job.they are a waste of money.even in the summer why do police and commanders work there is no school except summer school.june July .have them work like security 10 months.commanders hide all day,do thier landruy and wash thier personal cars on board time so give them the month off aug off with no pay.does any one agree
Anonymous 9:13 PM
Why do all the Fadzen people have so much hate in their words?
Ghost, commander puppet, etc. Bitter words for a man that needs to move on?
Can you guys have this man’s personality traits of bitterness?
Go to the City of Pittsburgh Police website one and all city residents.
Read daily the Police Blotter-each Zone puts up daily police reports of all crimes in each zone.
It is 366 days a year. For Example, Tuesday March 13, 2012 would be up –they stay up seven days.
I work in a neighborhood Leadership Council. No city Zone is crime free-and South Hills has Zone 3 a large area to cover-the Southern region.
We as citizens and taxpayers and parents have an invested interests in all the doings in PPS.
And being part of the Civic Group-we need to just look at the facts.
If this trial continues through appeals-sadly it will make more damage for our children with the los of more taxpayer dollars for this man.
I agree it would save close to $ 500.000 .with security and police and commanders being off.
Years ago, there was a PPS police officer permanently assigned to every high school.
I do not mean security guard, I mean police officer.
And there is a difference. A security guard has no real powers. He can only try to persuade.
A police officer has arrest powers. For example, a police officer can make an arrest for disorderly conduct or for an assault.
Believe me, the students knew the difference.
Then Chief Fadzen got the idea to pull the PPS police out of the schools, and have them ride around in squad cars instead.
It was a terrible idea. Instead of having a police officer right on the spot, you had to wait 10, 15 minutes.
Often the assault was over by then. All the late-arriving school police did was take a report.
So our school's parent council sent Chief Fadzen a letter, asking him to please keep an assigned police officer in our building.
Not only did Fadzen ignore the letter, he actually pulled our officer out much earlier than was scheduled!
That was done just to show that he, Chief Fadzen, was calling the shots, and not the parents.
Parental concerns? They did't matter.
As far as I can tell, Fadzen is just another part of the problem.
Now just wait one dag-nab darn minute folks, we have plenty of crime in South Hills, you can bet your last dime on it. Our crimes are both large scale and small scale. How awful for anyone to paint the southern neighborhoods as idyllic!!! Thanks 9:51 for setting the record straight. And, our kids still walk around showing their underware, too!! Can somebody let them know this is passe? And 11:05, how can you be sure it was Fadzen making the decision to pull your school cop? Was he the only one on the letter or was somebody cc: on it? Does not sound like what I would expect him to do.
To anon 6:53
You asked how can I be sure it was Fadzen making the decision to pull your school police officer.
A school administator told me this. I have no doubt it's true.
And our officer was pulled out on a random basis. For example, he'd be pulled out on Monday and Tuesday, and be sent to another school.
Then our officer work our school on Wednesday. Then he'd would be pulled out on Thursday. Etc.
No replacement officer would ever be sent.
That sort of thing never happened before the parent council's letter was sent. Before the letter, our officer was in our building five days a week.
I am a female teacher who lives and teaches in the so-called 'Softer Hills.'
I see both sides of the coin. I personally had worked in afterschool programs with Fadzen, the self proclaimed rooster. He may be obnoxious, but he has a heart of gold.
I'm sorry to previous posters about his sexist comments but there may be some truth it.
As an aging female teacher, I find that I am treated differently by staff and administrators than my younger female colleagues. This does translate into the classroom because the students do pick up on attitudes.
I am sure that my aging male teacher friends may be experiencing the same now.
All this is beside the point.
Fadzen was in a position to be savvy to everything. The open hearing is a platform to shed light where it normally doesn't go.
I, for one, do not like being in the dark. I rather hear the good, the bad, and the ugly so that the problems may be workd out.
This administration is not trustworthly and is virulent.
There is a real problem with older, experienced employees being undervalued. A good mix is necessary. All ages bring something. There are advantages teachers in their late 20's/ early 30's but they also tend to need more maternity leave and time for family commitments, and they do not have the perspective that comes with having raised children to adulthood.
Anon 8:27 I've have been with the dist for 20 years and not once have I've seen a police officer posted at one school.So where di you get your information.security was always the front line and the police always did the paper work.I've seen the police walk away from a fight because they said security got it under control.No fazden never moved police out of a school because they were never assigned to just one school because if you have a riot like at the dice all police must respond .remenber security make a lot less then the police but do a lot more work.I thank my security at my school every day for keeping me and my students safe.
Does any one know who is in charge of school safety I've heard Pete carmada wants to get rid of the commanders and who ever they bring in to replace fazden will have no one under him .Can some please tell me what a commander doe's beside's signs reports all day.If the board wants to save money get rid of them they are useless.It doesn't take all day to sign papers so what do they do for the 7 hours that are left on thier shift.
Perhaps discussion of how distrcit safety and security operate should take place at either a PSCC meeting or at a district meeting of the EFA parent committee. For as many years as I had kids in school there was always a fear that the department would be downsized. With budget worries and teaching positions to be cut it seems a possibility that there will be a reducation in school police and security.
The lesson continually driven home as you read the posts to this active blog seems to be that there will always be two "camps" for most issues. It is obvious on this Fadzen topic, too.
Aparent said.there is no way they can or should cut police or security.Have any of you parents steped or work in a school where if it wasn't for security or police it would be nuts.Teachers are getting hurt breaking up fights in those buildings that don't have security.Its getting worse every where.Dr.lane and the dist.are promoting safe learning and safe schools.You cut security or police then you will see crazy schools and a lot of law suits
School safety needs fazden back to get those schools back in order westing house,uprep,it's only gonna get worse because no one cares at bel field
Has any one heard what's going on with fazden's hearing.Is it over and did he spill the beans about the lady's in charge.
This case will settle. It just a matter of time. The thing to worry about now is what came out in the hearing and who else is aware of it.
Base on some of the things that came out, its time to cut Broad and gates lose. Those things will really hurt PPS.
Would it be possible to get a transcript of the hearing?
I don't think so it's a secret from your belefield adm bosses.
Do I understand you to mean, the upper admin is being kept in the dark about the testiony? Perhaps if we get audio and play the recording backwards we can get the meaning of it all.
No I mean they don't want the public to know what came out at the hearing.Thats why there were no media there at the last three days.
Fazden has 2 votes for him, 4 votes against and 3 undecided. He has only 2 high level adminstrators that would support him if they could.
That's not what I heard. Do you think they are going to read the thousands of pages of transcripts? Not. I heard he has 3 yes, possibly 4 for him.
Again, I ask, is there a way to get ahold of the transcript?
Fazden has 4 vote's maybe 5 .I know this because I work there and I here people talking.If the board should lose this case and he does not get his job back fazden lawyers are ready to sue.The money they will have to pay is no even close to what they gave Berdnic . It will cost 2 times more and people will lose thier jobs.I suggest give him his job back,with back pay and let's move on.Dr.lane said they can't afford any more law suits,then stop playing with people,s lives . I hear you can sue the board for any reason and they will settle.
We will try to find out.
I have 15 years in and they want to cut me for a person that has 2 years and fresh out of collage. Fazden should sue ,if he win,s or not just to say this is what you get for trying to screw with me. No 1 else stood up to the powers to be he did.So all you people who blog here and are about to loose your job,s ( and you know who you are ) do something about it and stop complaining.
Fazden does not have 3 votes. Sorry. You may be hearing what the people are saying at work, but those are not the people voting. He has 1 sure vote and 1 almost sure vote thats it.
The votes will go down like this, 2for Fazden, 2 abstain, and 5 against.
Don't underestimate the power of the political machine.
Anon10:06.
How did you get those number,s . The political machine will always be the last vote and don't be suprised to see fazden by June . 5 votes for 2 against and 2 abstain.
I know the Board members vote, but the Superintendent and Co. are running the show. They pull the strings and their puppets vote according to their wishes. Fadzen is a gonner. I hope that when he gets the final decision, he sues them and takes them to the bank.
You bet your bottom dollar he will sue if he is gone or not
Why would any abstain. Such a cowardly way to go.
A close source of mine said fazden has 6 votes and will return to work when the board votes on it.
Wow, is anybody else having a lot of fun with the fantasy outcome game? Chief Fadzen has been on leave without pay for quite a while now and that is the most upsetting factor of the whole situation. Having to give any back pay if he is found worthy of reinstatemnent will be a black mark against the district.
The other camp must be worried that is he is reinstated he will have gained more power than anyone in his position should have.
Regardless of the outcome, he won't be back. If he "wins," Lane and Co. won't want him back anyway. And if he "wins," why would he want to come back and work with those backstabbers? If he is smart, he will take a nice buyout and get a nice stress free consulting job elsewhere. A win-win situation for him. If he "loses," sue and get a settlement to go quietly into the night. Again, a win-win situation for him.
Anon 5:10pm. Why wouldn't he want to come back the man has dignity .If I were him I would come back and throw it in there face . There is no one running safety and if there is why don't we see or here from that person like we did with fazden.It's all a joke.Wouldnt you want to leave with your head held high if you had all those years with the board.
I predict Fadzen will be found in the right and as soon as it is anmounced that he can be reinstated he will say "no thanks" and exit with a smile on his face.
Any word on fazden yet or did they pay him to quietly go away and if so they would have to paid him very to go quietly.
Well let me start by saying that Fadzen is missed by the people of school safety. Why? You ask. It is simple he would fight for your job and keep on fighting for them. I have some questions if anyone can answer them.
1. Where was the person that is in charge when the shooting happened a block away from the Science and technology school. If he was around he would have been there. Helping with anything he could have done for the kids at that school.
2. I go around the district and I never see the commanders (?) anywhere but the Admin Building and the old South Vo-Tech Annex. So what do they do all day?
3. You need to keep the security and the police officers and keep the chief and maybe one of the commanders.
I can go on for a while about this district but I will hold back awhile and see what other people say about this.
Anon 5:41 You are absolutely rite .Does any one know who is in charge and yes fazden would have been at sci tec that day for sure.safety needs security and police but not commanders .They hide all day or there at the board doing nothing.They need to bring fazden back and get rid of the coommanders.I to travel through out the distric and the chief is missed.So who do I contact ,or send pitchers to about the commander sleeping down south .
I have seen a commander's car in carrick , pulling in to a house garage around 10:00 am during a school day.Talk about gost employees
Trying to get a civics lesson or at least wondering how slow the wheels might turn. If there has not been an announcement on where the proceedings stand or whether or not the hearing officer is preparing his opinion, does it mean there is more testimony to be given?
No it's over .Waiting to here the decision from the hearing judge.I hope he comes back and works for another year and says f.u iam retiring and before he goes he must clean up the safety department starting with the commanders who do nothing but hide all day.It makes me sick.What waste of money.
Our schools need the leadership of Fadzen. Since he has been gone things are going on in our school that never would have been permitted. Our principal reports nothing, so school police never drops in to visit. The Chief used to just stop by to visit and had a good relationship with our prior principal. His head would turn if he saw how the students are behaving. Why not, there are no consequences anymore and a teacher said they heard our principal told school police not to come if they weren't called. I just can't imagine any principal telling Fadzen not to stop in without being called. Maybe that's why we have ghost school police now. Maybe other principals are also telling them not to come into the schools. Bring him back and let's get the schools back in control.
I agree with anon 4:44 .he needs to come back and clean it up .the police are always in my building with a commander just hanging out and doing nothing. He needs to give police assiginments and get rid of commanders.what do they do in the summer when there is no school.Talk about a waste of money.
I am surprised they won't take advantage of the spring break week to release the judgement to the media. Kind of when people won't expect it. Or maybe it will come out on Saturday when fewer people read the papers.
When is the transcipts going to be online from the hearing? Also I have been will PPS for 30 years and it looks like the carpets are coming back into the schools. Report no crimes and or bad behavior of the students and they think everyone will think all is alright inside PPS. Wrong maybe the state needs to come in and clean the whole PPS.
Is it just me or does the school district need to be investigated for corruption? Can anyone say indictment?
If anyone actually has evidence of corruption in any of the state's school districts, there is an anonymous tip line available. Otherwise there does not seem to be any reason to mention indictments.
They want the public to belieave evert thing is ok but it's not.There are fights,drugs and bullying every day in the pps.( o and weapons ) So when you run out of suspension on a special Ed kid what do you do.( sweep it under the rug )
What is the number to call and report it to the state? I wouldn't and CAN'T tell it to the PPS. Because if I do. I would be fired. Jodi and company don't like people telling the truth around here.
If any one calls the state and the girls over at belfield find out O Boy they will call you in to Jodi's office and fire you.
Isn't that what they tried to do with fazden because he stood up to the powers to be at belfield ,the so called girls .
Any word on fazden yet.
I work at 11th and carson and i see a commander comes by aaound 8am every day and leaves at 330pm. what hours do they work??? I read these posts and think you people are right they should get rid of them. They work less than 8 hours a day. How can they do that and not get in trouble?
First to address the commander position. Commanders sign police reports, and make sure security aides and police officers are doing what they should. They also are there if a(criminal)legal issue needs to be addressed to a principal or officer. It is also a salaried position, they are not paid for the time they put in. An example would be the extra circular events that they are at with out overtime pay.
So what do they do for the 7 hours left on they're shift and no you do not see them after school is out.so who are you trying to fool.anon3:39.they are gone home before most schools are out.Who is running safety( NO ONE ) .Dr lane needs to take a good hard look at the commenders and see why they still have a gost employes position in pps .Save teachers jobs and get rid of the commanders .
Mac's Daddy said...
Sounds like we have a commander here. Telling us all what they do.
Mac said They also are there if a(criminal)legal issue needs to be addressed to a principal or officer. If they are pushing everthing under the rugs? So is the commanders telling Lane and Co how to do it??
I Agee they are a wast of money.Get rid of the commanders .They do not do more then expected .They are home before 3:00 pm and why can't the person in charge (so call acting chief) sigh the reports what does that person do all day(NOTHING)
Lane and Co will not look into these people because. She hired the acting puppet and the commander. SO THESE PEOPLE ARE PART OF LANE AND CO. But they better understand that if it falls apart Lane and Co will have two good fall guys.
Anon 10:03 I hope and they will let it fall apart.So because they don't do any thing
Get rid of the commanders . Who are they and what do they do..Heck I don't even know or have seen the person running safety.lane and co.puppets should be the next to go.
Never paid attention to this kind of thing before, but is the amount of time before a ruling is announced out of the ordinary?
LANE AND CO.
Hey how about get rid of the commanders since they are not administrators.
The True Hard Workers of PPS
Anon 5:15 I agree save the money on commanders and get rid of them especially the one they call the acting chief.What a waste.When fazden comes back they have to .the board can't afford his salary and they're salaries to . One commander and chief fazden would be enough.the so called acting chief is sweeping to many bad things under the rug and it is going to catch up with him/her .So when the press gets a hold of all the bad things they are doing over in the safety department guess who is going to get fired .The so called acting chief.
I agree with anon 6:57 .Chief fazden will be back and the commanders will be gone to save money.He will do the jobs of both of them like he use to before he left.I travel thorough out the district and people are still talking about how bad we need him back.So to you to commanders and I hope you reed this ,your days are numbered .
What is going on with Fadzen??? Is Lane and Co trying to cover up the findings?? Or What
No, the hearing officer will find in favor of the school district. The hearing officer was selected and paid by the district. His work in this capacity for other districts would dry up if he finds for Fadzen.
Likewise, the district's solicitor is a named counsel on PPS' D&O insurance policy. With an EEOC claim in play, there's a substantial economic incentive for the Law Offices of Ira Weiss to keep this fight going.
No anon 9:26 am fazden won and will be back by June so gets your facts in order before you post here and think you know what's going on .
How do you know that Fadzen won?? I hope that he does. When will the state it as fact so all will know that he will be back.
Hey this blog works. The school police parked cars at the south building. Now most of them are gone. I read a post about a commander(?) leaving early. I have not seen that. Today I saw two just standing the parking lot talking. What are they doing there? Where have all of the cars gone?
Win or lose, it's time for the school district to make public the amount of money spent prosecuting the Fadzen case since the ambulance incident in July 2011.
What were the legal fees and costs paid to the firms that employ Weiss, Vernallis, Love and Beard?
How much did it cost to transcribe the hearing and produce official copies of the transcript?
Does anyone know the exact date the hearing was over for Fadzen??
The hearing officer has 60 days from that date to file his report.
Any word on fazden yet,He needs to come back and get his safety department under controll.They are being run by the upstairs people who controll all pps employes and the acting chief is fowling theyer lead.and will not stand up to none of them like fazden would.The acting chief will most likely lose it's job wants the media finds out what's going on and it's gonna happen the day after I retire from the district wich is soon.So get ready for a big shake up in the pps starting with the the people upstairs
If I was close to retirement I would tell all that I know and that is alot.
But I don't think the media would report it.
LANE AND CO is POWERFUL
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH FADZEN?? WHERE IS THE REPORT? IS THE REPORT IS GOOD FOR FADZEN AND BAD FOR LANE AND CO?? WHEN IS THE REPORT BEING SENT TO THE PUBLIC? SINCE ALL OF THAT MONEY THEY SPENT ON IT?
BY THE WAY HOW CAN ANYONE FIND OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON THE WHOLE FADZEN INCIDENT??
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT.
THANKS
Fadzen won his case .So now it's time to clean out the safety dept starting with the acting chief and her side kick commander who do nothing all day long what a waste of tax payers money.
Anonymous June 8, 2012 5:57 PM
said...
"Fadzen won his case "
How do you know?
Did they release the findings?
If so how can I get a copy?
Thanks
Kapt Kaos
Did Fadzen get his job back or is there still official word on the hearing findings?
The legal eagle team here - led by Solicitor Ira Weiss - really owes the Board and public an explanation of why the procedings here are taking longer to unfold than the Sandusky trial.
Fadzen was suspended in September for an incident in July. It is now almost one year later.
While there are many possible explanations, at the end of the day follow the money trail. Maximization of legal fees is not a new concept for a law firm that fought real hard to get a taste of Veon's BIG money.
As I read the articles on the disaster that is Penn State, the Sandusky mess, I can't help but wonder that they would have gotten away with it if it were not for the investigating powers of the State Attorney General and its Grand Jury. I think the command structure at Penn State will soon find out that hiding evidence, destroying evidence, covering up crimes against children, and lying to the Grand Jury carries with it some penalties, somewhat on the stiff side.
Maybe a state or federal grand jury is exactly what is needed in the Pittsburgh Public Schools. It could look at sweetheart deals to Fischetti's old companies, the relationship and flow of money from the law office and outside law firms and back to Weiss. Ira Money, the use of taxpayer's money, millions and millions of dollars poured into schools we knew we were going to close, to name a few.
Lane, Fischetti, Reed and Spolar lie everyday to Board Members, Media, parents, children, etc.
Lie to a grand jury, hide email and other evidence, you will go to jail, end of story.
Words well spoken!!!
Nothing more needs to be said.
We hope that Fadzen knows that the Acting Chief and Commander talk behind his back! Fadzen I am a Security Officer and we need you! Please help us!
Anon 10:40 I really don't think you are a security officer,I think you are a school police officer trying to hide behind a security officer so the 2 pieces a s--t will not figure you out.You need to man up .Most people in the safety dept can't stand the 2 people in charge ,police and security ,so for you trying to cover up how you feel behind someone else is a cowardly way and I would never would won't to work beside you in any capacity and by the way I know who you are and if you were doing your job you wouldn't have time for this petty crap.
lol, I see you have time to go on here. Your right no one is happy with the Commanders, who are you ha? lol
I do have time to go on here because iam retired and I was in public safety .The so called acting chief and her b...h side kick will not stand up to the people up stairs.They are yes men and do not care about they're own people because they do not want to loose they're jobs like fadzen.so for you to acting like you are security is a joke ,you sit with these people every day at the admin bld .lol
Well I do agree about the Commanders and that is why our department is a joke. I only work 8 hours so I do have time to go o here and this is America freedom of speech.
School police don't work 8 hrs and especially in the summer they are at home hiding.Ive driving past a house and I've seen a k-9 police car sitting in front of a residents in the middle of the work day and a commanders car in front of a residents too so do not tell me you school police work 8 hrs a day when school is out for the summer .You are lucky to work 4 hrs a day if that.
School Police is a joke and are nit needed! They are a waste of tax payers money, the Security Officers do all the work and the Officers think they are better. The Security Officers just laugh at them behind their backs because the Security is the heart of the school usually. Security do protection,counsel the kids,nurse when the nurse is off and sooooo much more! Why are two commanders needed? We pray that their is a new chief very soon or Fadzen comes back! The Commanders running the department are a joke and the officers go home on board time and go to the bank and come in late and so on...
Anon 6:48 you are absolutely correct and I agree .I work in a school and I talk to security every day and these men and some women do a great job ,not with just students but with teachers,parents and admistration .they defuse a lot of problems while the school police watch or walk away .They are a waste of money and the commanders are a joke.I travel to the admistration bld and see a lot of scchool police overe there doing nothing.If fadzen was there these people would not be hanging out and wasting tax payers money and that's the reason why the people up stairs don't like school safety.We need to do something to get fadzen back to save the safety dept from being dismantled.
THANK YOU FOR STATING THAT SECURITY defuse a lot of problems while the school police watch or walk away. They are a waste of money and the commanders are a joke.I travel to the admistration bld and see a lot of scchool police overe there doing nothing WHO EVER WROTE THIS THANK YOU!
THIS YEAR I AM SENDING A LETTER TO ALL THE TV STATIONS,WHAT GOES ON IN THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT! IT IS A GOOD STORY!PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is the chief,does any one know or heard any thing.His safety dept,is fallen apart.The two people in charge are destroying what's left of it.bad PR and so many people are complaing ,teachers ,staff and administration about the commanders.they should be evaluated by they're own people and lets see how long they last.
HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOUR DEPARTMENT IS PROFESSIONAL?
1. POLITE
2. RETURN CALLS
3. NO FAVORITES
4. GO BY SENIORITY
5. FOLLOWS PROTOCOL IF THEY EVEN KNOW IT.
6. RETURN EMAILS
7. GIVES JOB LOCATIONS BY SENIORITY BY REQUEST.
8. FAIR WITH OVER TIME
9. RESPECT
10. ALWAYS BACK YOUR STAFF AND THEY WILL BACK YOU! COMMON SENSE!!!!
THE COMMANDERS DO NOT BACK US - SO WE DO NOT BACK THEM! THEY ARE TERRIBLE!
Anon 9:32 what did the commanders do to you that you are so angry. We all do not like what they are doing to the dept of safety but you are taking it personally .the chief needs to come back and the board needs to get rid of them too .the chief ran this dept for years with out them too.So you you need to call or write a letter to Pete c they're boss and let him investagate what they are doing and he will problay fire them if he knows the truth.
THANK YOU! I WILL DO THAT! A LETTER TO PETE IS COMING!
NO ONE THAT POST ANYTHING ON HERE POST ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEM BECAUSE NOVICKI AND BROWN WOULD PUNISH AND HARASS YOU. WE USE OTHER PEOPLES SITUATIONS.
THE COMMANDERS AND POLICE ARE DOING NOTHING AND GETTING PAID AND THE SECURITY THAT WORK HARD FOR TWELVE MONTHS ARE WORRIED ABOUT FEEDING THEIR KIDS!
Anon 4:42 you must be a police officer because security only work 10 months and make enough money to feed they're kids .If you don't like your job then quit it's that simple the commanders are doing what the people up stairs are letting them do so get use to it or find another job..who ever this is needs to stop badgering the commanders because they will take it out on all police and security,no over time to start with and moveing people around .If you got a problem then let them know why ruing it for the ones that like they're job.
Sounds like alot of safety people are on this but they won't put their names. They give themselfs away by giving to much information. I work for pps and yes it is messed up. Not just one depatment the WHOLE PPS. The state needs to come in and look at the whole picture.
To anon 4:42, The Security do ALL THE WORK and the Police make the money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! No, you are wrong the Security do worry about feeding their families. If the Commanders harass me I am writing Pete a letter ASAP! I m tired of this! The PPS are a mess because the staff are unhappy!
*** WE DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH INFO... I USE OTHERS SITUATIONS! WE ALL TALK!
Anon 9:39 security make enough money in ten months to feed they're kids .so for you to blog and complain to Pete c is a joke maybe if you didn't have to pay child support you can afford to be off for 2 months.So if you don't like your job and can't afford the summers off quit or find a second job.
Anon 9:39 go to the next public meeting an complain.we need him back ASAP,I will be they're .So lets see how Many people show up on his behalf and who are behind him and want him back.
First off if any of you think that the police shouldn't make more than security your probably uneducated, close-minded, and ignorant to how the world works. The district has this uncanny knack of paying people more that have more responsibility, and have certifications to hold the position. I know its kind of crazy sounding but they actually got that right.
So okay Security is front line defense against those unrulely offspring of the crack cocaine generation. In a post Colembine world they are needed to protect our most valuable assets (the teachers). They also are often forced to be counselors, coaches,
mediators, big brothers an sisters, but they come to be pretty good at it after a while and actually keep the peace in a building. What happens though when these golden "heart" security guards cant control there population or fail to properly search someone at the (fool proof safety device of the decade) magnetometer. What do they do when a weapon gets in to the building, or when the fights to much to handle, or when the all mighty teacher is assaulted, or generally when a crime is committed. You need certified sworn police to initiate legal proceedings. The Schools certified officers have been through the same certification standards as your city, state, and borough police officer. These are the same officers that constantly go through the legal scrutiny that your administration, security, and teachers do not want to and cannot do legally. These are the people held accountable for following the law while your school staff are free to violate the civil rights of the students under the cloak of school policy. Now aside from why the accredited police officers are paid more then the uncertified, often uneducated security. What security officer makes over forty thousand a year, with full benefits? What other school district in the NATION pays that much? So what its a couple dollars and some change less than the police. The bottom line is the police are paid for their certifications, increased responsibility, and legal obligations. If you don't like the amount your being paid then look for a new job and see what your worth to other districts.
As far as the Commanders go Its rather obvious that a certain know-it-all has orchestrated this blog because of his lust for sassy gossip. We know all know this is how you strike your revenge (for not getting the cmdr job). Its the only way in the post Fadzen department. But hey on the bright side they'll be looking for a new short dictator soon enough maybe you can get that job. Until then status quo is the way to go. The rest of you people are just upset that there is a boss('s) that holds you accountable for your actions and not your politics.
Who ever wrote the long one on July 11, 2012 7:22 PM is uneducated. The Security do not make $40,000 more like $32,000! The Security have hands on training where police have what 8 weeks lol,lol! The Police are wayyyyyyyyy over paid! What do they do???? How many police are educated lol!? THIS STATEMENT IS A JOKE}The bottom line is the police are paid for their certifications, increased responsibility, and legal obligations. If you don't like the amount your being paid then look for a new job and see what your worth to other districts. WITHOUT SECURITY MISTER EDUCATED KNOW IT ALL YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A JOB! SECURITY GO TO COURT AND HANDLE ALL THE SITUATIONS IN THE SCHOOLS! WHAT A JOKE!
THERE WAS A POST THAT SECURITY ARE NOT EDUCATED! WELL, WHY ARE YOU ALL COMMANDERS AND POLICE FOR THE PPS AND NOT A REAL POLICE DEPT, THINK FIRST!
NO, THE COMMANDERS FOLLOW POLITICS AND FADZEN FOUGHT FOR US! FADZEN WAS NO A WIMP!
whose Dr. Manlicher? Where does the security aide position require more than a high school diploma or equivalent? "hands on training"? See what that will do for you in a civil case when your house and pension is on the line. 32,000 for 10 months of work as a security guard, that's robbery. But I know the guard's that actually do work make more in overtime. Actually guards in the high schools are almost all making more even at minimal overtime cause of the cuts. Again I ask you to find a comparable SECURITY job that pays even close to that even with out the overtime.
How does a security guard get a case in to a court room? Does the teach write refer to court on a paper for them? I'm pretty sure the police who have had 7 months of police academy training and yearly legal updates to keep a post high school certification are the ones filing the appropriate charges and bringing the security guard witness's to court.
So why are you so angry at the School District police ? Is there a jealously that you yourself are not a police officer? If Fadzen is such a god sent savior why did he not wave his magic stick on your forehead and make you a police officer? Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth.
No one said that that the guards don't do a good job or that they aren't worth their pay but it was said be thankful for what your getting cause you wouldn't get that anywhere else in the country. An there's really no reason for You to be so upset at the police they have no bearing on your position. It just make you sound sad, angry and jelious. Maybe this isn't for you
If you want to be taken serious leave your name! Posting all of this on this blog with no name it looks like everyone wants to say something but will not stand up and defend it. Just look at PSU if all of this illegal stuff is going on at PPS than maybe someone needs to come in and review all of the concerns and problems.
Oh use your real name not McFaroffthedeepend and such.
First of all what does McFaroffthedeepend mean? No jealousy here just fact!
If someone wants to be a officer all they have to do is go to the Academy! Your not a real police officer.
I will write Pete with every situation that needs addressed this year! Other than that I have nothing more to say. You have no idea who I am *Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth.
Anon 11:17 you are a bitter person who should not be working around kids. if you have this much anger towards your own people what do you do to these students when they are out of controll.you should evaluate your self before you judge other people.( ps please find some other line of work this job is not for you )
They have no idea who writes these blogs because there are a few of us that write blogs. I have worked for the board over 16 years and have always been in a middle school that has requested a high school for the past 10 years - I lost faith in the department. I suggest that you just write Pete even anonymously if you have too.
A Commander diffidently wrote the following:McFaroffthedeepend said...
whose Dr. Manlicher? Where does the security aide position require more than a high school diploma or equivalent? "hands on training"? See what that will do for you in a civil case when your house and pension is on the line. 32,000 for 10 months of work as a security guard, that's robbery. But I know the guard's that actually do work make more in overtime. Actually guards in the high schools are almost all making more even at minimal overtime cause of the cuts. Again I ask you to find a comparable SECURITY job that pays even close to that even with out the overtime.
How does a security guard get a case in to a court room? Does the teach write refer to court on a paper for them? I'm pretty sure the police who have had 7 months of police academy training and yearly legal updates to keep a post high school certification are the ones filing the appropriate charges and bringing the security guard witness's to court.
So why are you so angry at the School District police ? Is there a jealously that you yourself are not a police officer? If Fadzen is such a god sent savior why did he not wave his magic stick on your forehead and make you a police officer? Your bitter hatred clouds the judgement of your un identified but obvious mouth.
No one said that that the guards don't do a good job or that they aren't worth their pay but it was said be thankful for what your getting cause you wouldn't get that anywhere else in the country. An there's really no reason for You to be so upset at the police they have no bearing on your position. It just make you sound sad, angry and jelious. Maybe this isn't for you, Commoffthedeepend...
This above shows you our leadership, well aren't we lucky.
IF THEY HARASS YOU WRITE PETE,DR. LANE,THE UNION AND HUMAN RESOURCES - THIS IS TERRIBLE!
Security do not make $32,000 - I know I don't! I wish!!!
Both commanders need to be evaluated .they are gost employees .get rid of one of them that we do not need and we all know wich one has to go.the police actually run the show they are only there to waste space .The police do a better job being in charge of after school activetys because you never see a commander there.They are home most of the work day and only show up if some one from the board is attending an after school function .So iam making copys and taking pitchers of they're cars sitting in front of theyer homes during a work days .pps police do a great job when a commander is not in the pitcher.they abuse theyer power by being a bullys.so by the end of this school year one of them will be gone.
Instead of the Commanders realizing that all these statement may be reality and not staff trying to be mean and make changes! The staff is unhappy and yes harassed and mistreated unfairly weather they like you or not. The commanders need to look at all the statements as their staff is very unhappy with them and what changes need to be made, not responding like they do! Yes, seniority should be by the para list, we just treated fairly and respected - that is all! A few of us that do leave feedback on here you should maybe listen to us. We have texts on our phones from Police Officers telling us that you all are saying that certain people are leaving these messages. Well, all of the Officers talk about you because they are unhappy! Instead of talking about us, try making positive changes. There are three of us that talk and respond to our unhappiness on here. If we are mistreated we are going right to Pete and the Union and I an one of the people being blamed for writing one thing on here, one! I will not be anonymous I will go right to the source if I am treated unfairly. We are thinking about telling Pete to read all these blogs, especially the ones that our Commanders (leaders) respond too! You are Commanders in charge AND BE CAREFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT PRETEND TO BE YOUR FRIENDS NOT US THAT WRITE WHAT WE FEEL ON HERE, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FAKE! Police and Security are very unhappy!
How is $32,000 a year robbery for a Security Officer that does all the work? We work hard and the ones that do not get rid of them! We are the ones that answer all the calls and keep the staff and kids safe! When a person irate on drugs comes into the building refusing to leave screaming and aggressive, the Security handle the entire situation alone putting our lives on the line daily! Take away taxes 0f $32,000 which is $6,000 = $26,000 COME ON NOW! We do not call the Police but 5% of the time because we are trained by experience.
Kapt Kaos said...
Sounds like alot of safety people are on this but they won't put their names. They give themselfs away by giving to much information. I work for pps and yes it is messed up. Not just one depatment the WHOLE PPS. The state needs to come in and look at the whole picture.
Thanks for the response but non of us are dumb enough to leave our own situation comments on here! They call us uneducated but we are not dumb! We all talk on a chat line.
OKAY, THOSE THAT WANT A LETTER TO BE SENT TO PETE,DR.LANE AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS JUST PASTE AND COPY THIS AND THEN WE WILL MAIL IT TO ALL OF THEM!
Those of us that want this sent to you are unhappy for the following reasons and believe the following changes need to be made!
1. Their are favorites and they do not go by seniority. Only the favorites get asked to work over time and they do not go by seniority! Seniority eliminates favorites and being unfair!
Anon 6:16 why should they go by seniority when half of ithe people on the safety list do not work .they come in and do nothing all day .the commanders reward people who work and thats fair.why reward some one for doing nothing come on .If this was another dept ,the people that dont work ( and you know who you are ) would have been fired.so be happy that you still have a job because they let you do nothing and get paid for it..
lol, wow that was deep but so false the statement above lol! If you read the earlier post it states that the Security that do not do anything need to be let go! READ BEFORE COMMENTING PLEASE! No, they need to go by Seniority! Going by Seniority is 100% fair! If you are on for 12 years and someone else for only 3 gets all the over time - that is 100% fair! Someday they will be the one with Seniority! The board is a mess because look at all the teachers that to not work!? The Commanders are not in the buildings so tell me how they know if they work? lol
Anon 6:31 the admistration ,security and some students let them know who works when they are in the building or out side of school ..ya seniority is the is the way it's supposed to go but is it fair no .you got some 1 who works they're but and you got some 1 who does nothing who do you think you would reward if you were in charge.most of the safety dept are lazy and just show up for a paycheck .hec I don't know it you are 1 of the ones that work or not but if you were they would know.so I guess not because you are on here complaing .so if you want to be rewarded show up for work every day on time and WORK
Everyone gets their time with seniority, once again - fire those that do not work!
Anon 5:03 if they fired every one that don't work in the safety department you would only have a hand full of people left including the commanders,there will be no in charge.
Sure you would - hello, you just hire new people or evaluate them. It is not hard! How do you know who works? YOU DON"T!
Anon 9:00 they just need to get rid of the lazy safety staff.they know who they are.If the commanders would do they're jobs and not be afraid of some of the people and put friendship aside we would have a great department .
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